[personal profile] palmer1984
Does Clegg actually believe that the coalition benefits cuts are justified, or is he just saying that he does because he wants to show cabinet unity?

I could ask the same question about various other policies.

[This is a genuine question, BTW - it's not intended to be combative - am trying hard to be less combative on-line, but am finding it hard to judge tone, so am worrying that everything I say sounds angry!]

Date: 2010-09-22 07:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] djm4
I think he, broadly speaking, believes it. I'm pretty sure that he at least believes the strategy of attempting to eliminate the structural deficit within the next five years is a sound one. He may have some disagreements about what we should be cutting, and what proportion of the deficit reduction should be in the form of cuts, but I think he agrees about the overall strategy, and I think his disagreements are small compared with the scale of the cuts.

Date: 2010-09-22 12:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pseudomonas
Hm. While I think this is likely broadly true, I worry that he's too loyal to the principle of cabinet collective responsibility, so it'd be very hard to tell where he does disagree.

Date: 2010-09-22 12:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] djm4
I agree that the principle of cabinet responsibility makes this hard to tell, but:

a) I think it's a sensible principle anyway, even in a coalition, although I think it would work best as an open discussion followed by a decision that everyone then gets behind

b) in this case - and I have this from people who have spoken directly to both him and Vince - I think he does actually agree

Date: 2010-09-22 12:44 pm (UTC)
pseudomonas: Ostrakon against Themistocles. (politics)
From: [personal profile] pseudomonas
b) I am not really arguing about, though I think it's not communicated to the public (or LD members like me) in the same way it is to people who are friends of friends.

a) I think really needs to work differently in a coalition. I'm not sure how it's to be done, and I don't mind if there are informal ways by which ministers can let it be known that whilst they accept the decision of the Cabinet and will work to implement policy X, it's not what they would have done if it were up to them alone -- but some solution needs to be found.

Date: 2010-09-22 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] djm4
I'm not sure I've got anything to add to my blog post here:


If I'm honest, I don't really understand his - or Danny Alexander's - position on the welfare cuts. And that certainly bothers me, but it might be lack of understanding on my part, or the fact that at this stage we don't know the full picture.



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